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Posted by teepee on December 25, 2002 at 08:36:29:

In Reply to: Re: Puppy Mills posted by Mr. D on December 24, 2002 at 10:59:38:

No, Im not a puppy mill. What I'm saying is not all pups in a pet shop come from puppy mills. Where there are mills, it is a lack of law inforcement, as any person selling to a pet shop or broker needs a kennel license. USDA does surprise inspections of kennels twice a year.
At one point a few years ago, I was offered the position of cruelty officer for the SPCA here. I turned it down, as it lacked a viable income, and would have required me to give up my full time job. I offered advice from time to time, but stopped when I felt that the conditions at the SPCA were worse than some of the places they were inspecting. I requested a USDA inspection of the SPCA, and they were fined for poor conditions by the USDA. Everywhere I looked, conditions were not up to my standards.
So after all this, puppy mill or SPCA, I trust neither as they are run by people who quickly tire of their job and conditions get bad.
I personally do not think dogs should be sold in Pet stores, as the stores lack proper methods of screening puppy buyers. Only the quality breeders have the ability to screen and determine if the person should either own a dog at all or help determine what breed is right for them.
As for the mills, If they would just make a law saying dogs cannot be sold in pet stores at all, it would shut them down forever.

::The old story about puppy mills supplying the pups to pet shops is outdated.
::Mike

:Ohhhh, Mike, I absolutely disagree with you 1000%. I can only guess that you are either a shop owner or a mill breeder in order to say that. The reason that I disagree is that I've seen the results of several cruelty cases which led directly back to puppy mills. A very good friend of mine is an animal cruelty investigator and is constantly receiving calls to investigate just such relationships. I can guarantee that puppy mills aren't in business to sell directly to the public although they don't necessarily refuse the business. In most cases they will conduct business somewhere other than their "facility" so as not to tip off the potential buyer of the conditions in which the puppy has been raised. Heck, I've got a shop here in my state that actually sells pupply that are blind, no kneecaps, hip dysplagia at birth, deaf... Things like that... NO reputable breeder would be letting dogs go out the door in that condition.

:They are definitely alive and well in several parts of the country and are doing just as much business with pet shops as they ever have - unfortunately.
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